How to Be Here?

This chapter connects three interviews conducted over the course of six years with the Canadian poet, philosopher, and essayist Tim Lilburn. Lilburn discusses with Campbell, the general dilemma of “how to be here”—both how to connect to land and place as a member of settler society as well as how to inhabit this moment of acute climate crisis—discussing ideas from Lilburn’s previous book The Larger Conversation: Contemplation and Place , and the recent Numinous Seditions : Interiority & Climate-Chan ge. The interviews are presented in reverse chronological order, beginning with the latest 2025 interview and concluding with our first conversation in 2019.